Peter Stoner’s Calculations Regarding Messianic Prophecy
Peter Stoner was chairman of the mathematics and astronomy departments at Pasadena City College until 1953 when he moved to Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California. There he served as chairman of the science division. At the time he wrote this book, he was professor emeritus of science at Westmont USA. If the font is too small increase the size using your browser. I have made the font as large as I can.
Part One: The Genesis Record
Stoner begins in his book with a very interesting observation. He points out that his copy of Young’s General Astronomy, published in 1898, is full of errors.
Yet, the Bible, written over 2,000 years ago is devoid of scientific error. For example, the shape of the earth is mentioned in Isaiah 40:22. Gravity can be found in Job 26:7.
Ecclesiastes 1:6 mentions atmospheric circulation. A reference to ocean currents can be found in Psalm 8:8, and the hydraulic cycle is described in Ecclesiastes 1:7 and Isaiah 55:10.
The second law of thermodynamics is outlined in Psalm 102:25-27 and Romans 8:21. And these are only a few examples of scientific truths written in the Scriptures long before they were “discovered” by scientists.
Stoner proceeds to present scientific evidence in behalf of special creation. For example, he points out that science had previously taught that special creation was impossible because matter could not be destroyed or created. He then points out that atomic physics had now proved that energy can be turned into matter and matter into energy.
He then considers the order of creation as presented in Genesis 1:1-13. He presents argument after argument from a scientific viewpoint to sustain the order which Genesis chronicles.
He then asks, “What chance did Moses have when writing the first chapter [of Genesis] of getting thirteen items all accurate and in satisfactory order?” His calculations conclude it would be one chance in 31,135,104,000,000,000,000,000 (1 in 31 x 10ˆ21).
He concludes, “Perhaps God wrote such an account in Genesis so that in these latter days, when science has greatly developed, we would be able to verify His account and know for a certainty that God created this planet and the life on it.”
The only disappointing thing about Stoner’s book is that he spiritualizes the reference to days in Genesis, concluding that they refer to periods of time of indefinite length. Accordingly, he concludes that the earth is approximately 4 billion years old.
In his defense, keep in mind that he wrote this book before the foundation of the modern Creation Science Movement which was founded in the 1960′s by Dr. Henry Morris. That movement has since produced many convincing scientific arguments in behalf of a young earth with an age of only 6,000 years.
Barry here: I prefer Peter Stoner’s explanation than the commenter’s from the website Lion and the Lamb click here . The reason for this is quite simple and it is in the second verse of the Holy Bible.
Genesis 1 v 2 KJV 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
So my Question to Young Earth Theory People is two fold.
NO:1 How Long was the Earth Void and in Darkness before The Spirit Moved upon it?
No:2 How can your Theory say the Earth is only Six Thousands Year old when?, It took 5,000 years to get it to a state of six day Man inhabiting the Planet. (Genesis 1 v 24-31 below for reference).
It took God 5000 years to make it Inhabitable and another 1,000 years to populate it.
Now lets look at this number before we move on working 24/7 Because God is a Spirit and He does not need Sleep we find that 6,000 years times by 24 hours is 144,000 hours.
If we take it 6,000 years by 365 days is 219,000 days times by 24 hours = 52,560,000. If we add in Leap days 1 in ever 4 years this fives us 1,500 extra days. Therefore 6,000 times 365 days per year Plus 1500 days time 24 hours per day = ((6,000*365)+1500)*24 = 52,596,000 hours.
If we use 360 days as in 360 degrees we come up with ((6,000*360)*24)= 51,840,000
Now we know from reading the Bible 1000 years is like unto a or one day to the Lord. We also know that 144,000 is mentioned in the book of Revelation. Therefore Six Days is 6,000 years Times by 24 hours in a Day, Leaves us with (6,000*24)= 144,000 Hours.
God worked for 144,000 Hours before he rested. Then God formed Adam and Eve in Genesis 2 and since then we have had 6,000 years of History.
So God made and populated the Earth in 6 Days or 6,000 years, Then He Rested for 1,000 years or a Day, Then he formed Adam & Eve (then in this time period Satan falls from Grace Ezekiel 28 v 11-19). Then to me God’s rest is over, now He sets his heart to the Covenant and the Reconciliation of Mankind back to Him. We now have 6,000 years of History. Lets compute that. 6,000 years from the time the Spirit Moved upon the Waters to form, make inhabitable and populate it. Then 1000 days of rest, Then Satan Falls from Grace and War in Heaven and Satan is Cast to the Earth, and he deceives Eve and then Adam. And from then we have had 6,000 year of History.
Therefore (6,000+1000+6000)=13,000 years. Young Earth Theory forgot to take into account the most basic’s of basic’s preparation time for the Earth to be able to sustain Natural Life. Laugh out Loud and I believed it (6,000 years) once upon a time! Enough said !
Therefore 6,000 year Earth Theory is Incorrect and seeing it is Incorrect IT IS A LIE. And Simple Mathematics Proves that. Peter Stoner’s probabilities of earth being 4 Billion years old is on his side of the discussion.
Now my simple way of thinking, sorry but that’s me. Lets take a look at the Jenolan Caves click here. In the picture below at one drip at a time how long would it take to form these formations? Answer – A very long Time! A lot longer than 13,000 years or even 6,000 for that matter.
Genesis 1 v 24- 31 KJV
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Peter Stoner’s Calculations Regarding Messianic Prophecy
Peter Stoner calculated the probability of just 8 Messianic prophecies being fulfilled in the life of Jesus. As you read through these prophecies, you will see that all estimates were calculated as conservatively as possible.
The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2).
The average population of Bethlehem from the time of Micah to the present (1958) divided by the average population of the earth during the same period = 7,150/2,000,000,000 or 2.8×10ˆ5.
Symbol “ˆ” means to the power off.
A messenger will prepare the way for the Messiah (Malachi 3:1).
One man in how many, the world over, has had a forerunner (in this case, John the Baptist) to prepare his way?
Estimate: 1 in 1,000 or 1×10ˆ3.
The Messiah will enter Jerusalem as a king riding on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9).
One man in how many, who has entered Jerusalem as a ruler, has entered riding on a donkey?
Estimate: 1 in 100 or 1×10ˆ2.
The Messiah will be betrayed by a friend and suffer wounds in His hands (Zechariah 13:6).
One man in how many, the world over, has been betrayed by a friend, resulting in wounds in his hands?
Estimate: 1 in 1,000 or 1×10ˆ3.
The Messiah will be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12).
Of the people who have been betrayed, one in how many has been betrayed for exactly 30 pieces of silver?
Estimate: 1 in 1,000 or 1×10ˆ3.
The betrayal money will be used to purchase a potter’s field (Zechariah 11:13).
One man in how many, after receiving a bribe for the betrayal of a friend, has returned the money, had it refused, and then experienced it being used to buy a potter’s field?
Estimate: 1 in 100,000 or 1×10ˆ5.
The Messiah will remain silent while He is afflicted (Isaiah 53:7).
One man in how many, when he is oppressed and afflicted, though innocent, will make no defense of himself?
Estimate: 1 in 1,000 or 1×10ˆ3.
The Messiah will die by having His hands and feet pierced (Psalm 22:16).
One man in how many, since the time of David, has been crucified?
Estimate: 1 in 10,000 or 1×10ˆ4.
Multiplying all these probabilities together produces a number (rounded off) of 1×10ˆ28.
Dividing this number by an estimate of the number of people who have lived since the time of these prophecies (88 billion) produces a probability of all 8 prophecies being fulfilled occidentally in the life of one person.
That probability is 1 in 10ˆ17 or 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That’s one in one hundred quadrillion!
Part Two: The Accuracy of Prophecy
The second section of Stoner’s book, is entitled “Prophetic Accuracy.” This is where the book becomes absolutely fascinating.
One by one, he takes major Bible prophecies concerning cities and nations and calculates the odds of their being fulfilled.
The first is a prophecy in Ezekiel 26 concerning the city of Tyre. Seven prophecies are contained in this chapter which was written in 590 BC:
Nebuchadnezzar shall conquer the city (vs. 7-11).
Other nations will assist Nebuchadnezzar (v. 3).
The city will be made like a bare rock (vs. 4 & 14).
It will become a place for the spreading of fishing nets (vs. 5 & 14).
Its stones and timbers will be thrown into the sea (v. 12).
Other cities will fear greatly at the fall of Tyre (v. 16).
The old city of Tyre will never be rebuilt (v. 14).
Four years after this prophecy was given, Nebuchadnezzar laid siege to Tyre. The siege lasted 13 years. When the city finally fell in 573 BC, it was discovered that everything of value had been moved to a nearby island.
Two hundred and forty-one years later Alexander the Great arrived on the scene. Fearing that the fleet of Tyre might be used against his homeland, he decided to take the island where the city had been moved to.
He accomplished this goal by building a causeway from the mainland to the island, and he did that by using all the building materials from the ruins of the old city. Neighboring cities were so frightened by Alexander’s conquest that they immediately opened their gates to him. Ever since that time,
Tyre has remained in ruins and is a place where fishermen spread their nets.
Thus, every detail of the prophecy was fulfilled exactly as predicted. Stoner calculated the odds of such a prophecy being fulfilled by chance as being 1 in 75,000,000, or 1 in 7.5×10ˆ7. (The exponent 7 indicates that the decimal is to be moved to the right seven places.)
Stoner proceeds to calculate the probabilities of the prophecies concerning Samaria, Gaza and Ashkelon, Jericho, Palestine, Moab and Ammon, Edom, and Babylon.
He also calculates the odds of prophecies being fulfilled that predicted the closing of the Eastern Gate (Ezekiel 44:1-3), the plowing of Mount Zion (Micah 3:12), and the enlargement of Jerusalem according to a prescribed pattern (Jeremiah 31:38-40).
Combining all these prophecies, he concludes that “the probability of these 11 prophecies coming true, if written in human wisdom, is… 1 in 5.76×10ˆ59. Needless to say, this is a number beyond the realm of possibility.
Part Three: Messianic Prophecy
The third and most famous section of Stoner’s book concerns Messianic prophecy. His theme verse for this section is John 5:39 — “Search the Scriptures because… it is these that bear witness of Me.”
Stoner proceeds to select eight of the best known prophecies about the Messiah and calculates the odds of their accidental fulfilment in one person as being 1 in 10ˆ17.
I love the way Stoner illustrated the meaning of this number. He asked the reader to imagine filling the State of Texas knee deep in silver dollars. Include in this huge number one silver dollar with a black check mark on it. Then, turn a blindfolded person loose in this sea of silver dollars. The odds that the first coin he would pick up would be the one with the black check mark are the same as 8 prophecies being fulfilled accidentally in the life of Jesus.
The point, of course, is that when people say that the fulfilment of prophecy in the life of Jesus was accidental, they do not know what they are talking about. Keep in mind that Jesus did not just fulfil 8 prophecies, He fulfilled 10ˆ8.
The chances of fulfilling 16 is 1 in 10ˆ45.
When you get to a total of 48, the odds increase to 1 in 10ˆ157.
Accidental fulfilment of these prophecies is simply beyond the realm of possibility.
When confronted with these statistics, skeptics will often fall back on the argument that Jesus purposefully fulfilled the prophecies.
There is no doubt that Jesus was aware of the prophecies and His fulfillment of them. For example, when He got ready to enter Jerusalem the last time,
He told His disciples to find Him a donkey to ride so that the prophecy of Zechariah could be fulfilled which said, “Behold, your King is coming to you, gentle, and mounted on a donkey” (Matthew 21:1-5 and Zechariah 9:9).
But many of the prophecies concerning the Messiah could not be purposefully fulfilled — such as the town of His birth (Micah 5:2) or the nature of His betrayal (Psalm 41:9), or the manner of His death (Zechariah 13:6 and Psalm 22:16).
One of the most remarkable Messianic prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures is the one that precisely states that the Messiah will die by crucifixion.
It is found in Psalm 22 where David prophesied the Messiah would die by having His hands and feet pierced (Psalm 22:16). That prophecy was written 1,000 years before Jesus was born.
When it was written, the Jewish method of execution was by stoning. The prophecy was also written many years before the Romans perfected crucifixion as a method of execution.
Even when Jesus was killed, the Jews still relied on stoning as their method of execution, but they had lost the power to implement the death penalty due to Roman occupation.
That is why they were forced to take Jesus to Pilate, the Roman governor, and that’s how Jesus ended up being crucified, in fulfillment of David’s prophecy.
The bottom line is that the fulfilment of Bible prophecy in the life of Jesus proves conclusively that He truly was God in the flesh.
It also proves that the Bible is supernatural in origin.
If you would like a book about scriptures in Revelation coming true in our time then Barry has written two
1). Virgo gives Birth Rev 12. and
2). London Harlot 666. London is Mystery Babylon the Great and the Harlot is the Bank of England, whom when formed spent 1.2 Million pound Sterling in 1694 and thereby conquer the world and at one point controlled 50% of the worlds goods and The City of the Corporation of London is still paid Hommage today by and including the mighty USA!….
If USA is so mighty why don’t they stop paying hommage and bomb Msytery Babylon the Great out of Existence? They “Including NATO and the Club of Rome” are but Just not Yet……
A little word but the most profound word ever spoken.
Jesus said Love thy neighbour as you Love yourself!
Jesus said suffer not these little one’s to come to me!
All the things wrong in the world can be solved by Love. Why?
Because God is Love, but instead of turning to him we ignore him and say where is the Love?
but God said I will show you whom I loved in Revelation 3 v 9
Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
Saints God is going to Make the Prince of Wales (the first Beast) and the Second Beast (The Rothschild’s) and the false prophet also being the Rothchild’s, who say they are Jews but are not, to come to us individually I believe to show us / you that God Loved us, that Jesus loved us and that the HOLY SPIRIT SEALED us for eternal life, and to show them that he LOVED US!
Even though they the powers and principalities of this world create man made diseases like the A.I.D.S (who is the disease “AIDING” (why de-population of course) and Ebola Disease & stretch out the incubation period to 42 days so that everyone in the world will become ill or know one of their loved one’s died or got very very ill and that is by the Elite’s hands, their world stage.
They plan to bomb us and wipe out Great Britain 100% Rev 18 and by nuclear bombs destroy 1/3 alone. That is over 60 Million people in Great Britannia alone!
Plus what these diseases and others like the bubonic plague, to kill off 95% of all off us. (That is currently 6.75 Billion people out of the 7.250 billion alive on the Earth today.)
This is there plan and they have started it.
Be off good cheer have a spring in your step becuase on the 16/11/2014 God begins to cleansed his Sanctuary (land promised to Abraham) and it will take 2300 days to do that says Daniel 8 v 14 and then it is ready for the lord’s return, but not before God has made all his enemies to be at the footstool of Jesus feet. AMEN Lord even so come quickly.
Here is a song by Black Eyed Peas
Where is the Love – With Lyrics
and without Lyrics the Official Video
Where is the Love Official Video
Now let me answer that question for the Black Eyes Peas and every one else! the love is:
In God the Father, Jesus the Son of God, and God the Holy Spirit that is where the Love is!
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that we might have life everlasting!
Come to the love the love of God below is a Video saying how to do this come to love the LORD GOD because he is good and he loves you and me, both individually and corporately.
Repent and be Baptised by Paul Rocchi
Come and know LOVE, KNOW GOD
AUD/USD the AUD is getting ready for another downward Trend. Below is the Monthly chart. My targets are for using the same factors in the crash of 2008 are Primary 0.48748 and next primary 0.40733. Meaning the AUD is going to be worth versus the USD around $0.41 cents to $0.48 cents
Now the time frame that is going to happen in is depending on a few variables will be on a fast decline April 2016 and a not so fast decline is July 2019.
We will see what happens.
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Close Encounter to Mars Live Viewing 19/10/2014 to 20/10/2014
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You can watch in about 7 hours a close Encounter with Mars and Siding Comet which is apparently is 1 in 1 million years.
Dahbo77 explains it in hie video below. Below that is links to the sites and I have pasted a few photos and video’s further below.
First thing to watch is Dahb0077 Video becuase it is a summary to the rest of this post.
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